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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-97
1. (S/NOFORN) This report documents a remote viewing session conducted in
compliance with.a request for information concerning an Army UHIH, tail
number 73-21711.
2. (S/NOFORN) 'The remote viewer's impressions of the-target are provided
as raw intelligence data,.and.as such, have not been subjected to any
intermediate analysis, evalutaion or collation. Interpretation and use of
the information provided is the responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S/NOFORN) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the document
Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing Protocol (S), undated.
4. (S/NOFORN) Jollowing is a transcript of the viewer's impressions during
the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made by the remote viewer
reference his impressions of the.target site. At TAB B is target cuing
information provided the remote viewer. This-8ession was conducted,concurrently
with Session DC-96.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-97
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#66:
This will-be.a pre-mission briefing to the remote viewer.
At about 0700 hours, at the targetp 17 February 1981, contact was
lost with a US Army UHlHf 1973 model helicopter. Present location
of this helicopter remains unknown. The tail number on this
helicopter is 73-21711 and responds to the call sian Armv 711.
SGFOIA3
target tooay wiii be to iocate,.,,.,,UH1H taii number O-Zllil.
At this time I show you a photograph of a UHIH Army helicopter.
I want you to. focus in time on the 17th of February 1981 on or
about 0700 hour,5 and report the incident and the location of the
helicopter. I repeat the helicopter, the whereabouts, the condi-
tion of the helicopter is unknown. It simply has lost contact at
that time.
SGFOIA3
#31:
#66:
#31:
#66:
#31:
#66:
#31:
#66:
#31:
#66:
This-will be a remote viewing session for 1100 hours, 12 March
1981.
Do you have any question,--?
Yeah. The names are
(phonetic)
At the beginning of the session, I will ......
17 February at 0700, ... *.what,# ...
0700 hours at the target..*..#
#31: Okay. At@700 wherever the target is, okay.
SGFOIA3
#66: And ...... I will give you the tail number at the beginning of the
session.
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#31: Twenty-one. Seventy three .... twenty-onep seven,eleven.
#66: Yes. You now have.... twenty minutes to prepare for this
session.
PAUSE
#66: Relax and focus your attention now on 17 February 1981 in
the early morning.-. hour 0700. Now, bring your attention to bear
on helicopter 73-21711. 73-21711 ...... and describe your imagery
to me.
PAUSE
#31: Ah....*ah..*..9.I don't know ...... on the horizon like a, a, r6d..'
sunrise.... and... red haze. I'm like riding on the outside of the
bird on his tailbone ...... I feel like I'm airborne at about a
relative feeling of when I first started in number 8,000 like
+03 8,000 feet came to me. I am high up though ..... high enough to
feel the curve of the earth and the .... see a thick forested .....
sebms like... thick forest, a countryside beneath.me .... flat,
relatively flat. It's in the direction of the sun....1 seem to be
moving. The sun i it I a-about q-.'-q,!Qck .............
PAUSE
#31: The sun, it seems to be rising out of water ..... there's some sort
of a line ...... it would be like ..... water would be, but it's off
to my riqht in the direction of the sun , but it'sGn-d.@ s. - tail @ 40.om.rou
parell,oI.- to,,'-thei way,,- I' r@ ,going Like I I m 15 or 20 miles inland 9 y
from a coastline. I can see the water com- the sun coming up out
of the water on,,.the other side of the coastlinet you know. On....
+05 the horizon .....
PAUSE
+07 #31: I'm inside. Let me get mm@- situated inside.
PAUSE
#31: Keep seeing this repeat scenario rolling over. The, ah ......
aircraft suddenly, _--tp,the r -gbt .... unexpectedly.
-just-rolls ov
Nobody knows why. The place is, ah, just falling apart before
anybody knows about it. It seems like the rear end moves to the
rMht and the aircraft rolls to __ the r-ight-at the same time. Like
__'__Bdt CF6-freaky thing is, ak so high
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ish ils t oll@.
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up that it's just virtually going straight down by the time it
goes down. The place.just turns into a pinwheel inside. I d -o-nt ,
feel anv -ex-plosion, but I feel the thing is falling. It's so
totally out of control that it looks like a, almost like a spider
flying through the air, falling through the air. It's looses
several pieces, but it's, the feeling that loosing is more of um
inertia than from breaking up in explosions. It's like it just
flys apart because it's spinning so...intensely ... on its way down.
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+13 #31: Throughoutq the feeling is ah, definite feeling it crashes in
the-water in a, crashes in the-a cut of water like a river or a
canal.
PAUSE
#31: 1, 1, in the cabin I did not .... no explosion in the cabin
inside, but ... during one of the enactments the word strella came
to me, but there is nothing that happens inside. I did not see
,M explosion. So, I don't know if that's overlay o@r not. There''s
a defin@ifte feeling of.....impact in the water ...... and a feeling
of it being near a bank. Like it does not go-into out in the ocean
at i:t@ @ -or ',:V@ in the middle of a big - lake. I t... I can look
across this thing, and it's right on.the, just shy of the other
edge. It's maybe 100 yards across, and it's just on the other edge.
And, I'm in a high place looking across, like I'm on a hillside,
by the edge of the water, and I'm looking.across to the side that
has no hill, and the bank is like 10 or 15 above the water ......
and like some of the crap is in this area .... some of the stuff that
flew off the helicopter is around here, but it's so sparsely
scattered because it fell so far that you really can't see it from
the waters.es.#
PAUSE
#66: Is the aircraft visible from the air?
#31: No ..... It's under 60 so feet of water. It just.went right on
Now" through... turned into-a pancake and ..... in the cabin there's a
everything is wedged and smashed and crunched in like a pancake.
I keep seeing this image of a piece of the rotor a:long skinny
+17 thing having some contact with the bank as it, as the thing goes
down. I don't know if it's wishful thinking that the rotor is
visible from the water level. Like it flew off and landed next
to the place where it wenti,in the water or, if in going in the
water, it went in so close that it made contact with the ..... the
canal bank or it resembles a canal bank 'cause it's so steep.
Like there might be a funny vertical gash in the bank or something
where it hit as it went in.
#66: Were there survivors to this?
PAUSE
SG1A #31:
#66: All right. Describe for me how I can find this. Describe how I
can find this.
PAUSE
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#31: It is, I'm on the bottom here. The water ..... and it is, ah,
I keep looking up and I keep seeing boats.go overhead .....
+21 It has.that feeling of when "Sea Hunt" would show.a boat go
overhead they appeared to be@ it appears to be small .....
someplace where boats go, and, ah, having a feeling of a vague
'IS" shape. Only.a slight 'IS" shape. A little curve, and then
another,little curve to the right. Very gentle curves. Only,
maybe 10 or 15 degrees.
#66: Tell me about .....
#31: It is at the first cur--- and below the curve is, ah, much
larger body of.water. I went down the,. I went down the line
@.O.Oand went around.a corner and it was like I was in a bigg
ig lake, or a bigf ah9 .... like I was in a big lake. So, I'm
off a big lake somewhere. I'm only a half mile or ..... It
seems like it was real quick. It would be the first curve off
a big lake, a big body of water, and just beyond the curve .....
and I'm on the.right side coming from the lake. So close to the
right bank I can almost reach out and.touch it. And, it's a place
where there's no hill on the right,. but there's a little hill, line
of hill, like a canal, and when that built the canal they piled the
dirt up like a ..... that's on the left.
#66: Tell me about the climate in this area.
+24 #31: Warm. It seems warm today. I fel- all along I felt like it was
INV." warm. Like I was in some tropical place .....
PAUSE
#66: Ask yourself the question$ "What is the most distinguishing
characteristic about this location that I would understan d?II
The most distinguishing physical.bharacteristiec)thatf,I-wouldi..,
understand.
PAUSE
+29 #31: 1 keep seeing a funny little mountain sticking up out of a little
town, city, and the little mountain is all burnt off. It's totally
burnt, and it's black and it's charred. It's a perfect little
mountain. There are several-others around, but this is the main
one. I keep seeing it, and it's little mountain that's in Panama
City. P-anama. The way they burn off the mountains when the
..*d*.,.'_ season comes.. I keep seeing that ...... it's under a hole.
@e*eling of my session'has been that I been to Panama. Central
Ameripa.--somp
#66: And, what is the data you experience that makes you say thi.s?
#31: Fleeting. Feeling earlier in the session of having been up high
and been over that part of the world and there's a little hill.
I've seen it before. Yeah! This mountain here, I've seen it.
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#31: It's one of the ones downtown. So, when you asked me, I started
11rawr asking, and-that's what I got. About three different shots.
And, I discarded-it because I.wouldn't think, I,'-.d:,think it's all
overlay and it'd still come back. This...whole feeling of a, of
a mountain that's .......
#66: Okay.. If I understand what has happened here. In response to
the question, "what is the most distinguishing characteristic you
havdL--a little mountain that is burnt off, similar to ones that you hae
seen in .......
#31: Panama City, Panama.
#66: Panama City, Panama. Let's return to the scene now at the
helicopter and what is the foilage like around there?
PAUSE
#31: Okay. I'm sort of crawling along. Crawling up out of the water.
That's riearly:') 'vertical feeling. Some sort of scrubby,-little
woodle plants grow.out-of the bank. The bank is almost vertical.
And, it's like.a, ah,#.*.,,,aloR.g the edge at the bank, it's built
up like on a .... ten foot high 1'ev-aL,, scrabbly , ah , scrabbly@ rocky
fill, funny, having this feeling of long bladed.grass is growing
up between the rocks and everything. Bladed grass is there about
89 8 inches long, but, when I come down off the side of this
thing, it sort of like drops o ff a little bit. Now, I'm in the,
-W40W now, I'm in the woods. So, let me look around.
I'm gettin this feeling -:bf,:a'- big trunked with stuff hanging down
out of it. Ah ..... Vines-vines hanging down out of it. Something
hanging down out of the green up ablove me . L. et me dig in around.
#66: How would you classify thi,s?
#31: It has, ah, as much as I tried to make the thing-go straight int o
the ground, it doesn't. It has a funny trunk that spreads out
around it. The roots spread out around it, and if I cut it in
half it has rihgs(phonetic).
#66: Okay. I don't want to get invo1ved in the tree itself. I think
my question is misunderstood. The type of area that you're in
is this a desert motif; is this a pine forest. How do you
classify this area? What kind of an area is i.t?
#31: Sort of funny. I'm getting conflicting feelings of-what I've
just said before. I'm getting the feeling that I can rustle
the-leaves on the ground. That I can run my hands through dead
leaves here.
#66: You say that's conflicting with something.
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#31: And, that ....... let me just look around for a minute.
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#31: Well, ah, I'm telling you,.I just looked back at the canal and
I could see.this super structure ... something going by. -So,
there are...something goes up and down that.river or canal there.
So, it is passable, and the leaves here.....Ilm trying to get
the leaves.....1 keep getting a tropical leaf. I keep getting
elephant earst and banyan (phonetic) trees, and, but it still is
in a mucky leafy area, like a lot.of leaves and stuff have fallen
over the.years and it'.s rustly .... and dry. It's very dry here.
It's not ... wet tropical. It's dry now-].so there's a lot of
rustly; like palm leaves, and 67orlds-. ) 'and things that are...
they're dry and rattly instead of wet and mucky.
#66: 1 have no further questions about the target area. So, before we
prepare to draw take one look again at the-location of the helicopter
and ..... be sure you remember everything you've seen, and I Ill now
give you a chance to comment as you see fit before we go.
PAUSE
#31: Ah..,.,i get the ... don't feel that there's anything important about
this flidnt. The doors are closed, and it's almost like the crew
chief is just.about reading a magazine in the.back type thing.
Everybody's quite casual ... no visual flight rules... 'cause I see
~ feeling of a map and not co-worried about instruments. More like
~ map. And, the side doors are closed .... an altitude out of which
the crew chief would.look up ... hel-d see the water out the side window.
....see a sunrise ... feeling is Iat.the flight path crosses the
iinear thing on below them and about a 35 degree angle. Like an
X. They don't cross it like a T. They cross it like an X. And,
that they're going up. I had the feeling that they are going north
to some place. Butt it's, they would go somewhere and touch down
and come back. But, that it's like it's a_1gaiajag_qqpjaipn.
Training mis A familiarization ride or
_gWgthin_q, because .....
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PAUSE
#66: Now, as you are perceiving along here, the helicopter and so forth
and so on, you had stated before that what happens happens very
suddenly, and the occupants in helicopter.donl.t know. The occupants
don't know what happened. Do you know what happene.d? STAT
#31:
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#31: ...like there's any buildin ctension, and then everything goes
finally wrong-. The thingithat I feel happened is ...... and
I don't know what this .......... I keep gettin' this, as I sit
here, and I'm looking at this very R@j @eful@,.trainjg mission
in
thing a continual interplay of this smoked trail coming up from
a hillside. I don't know what that is all about. When I first
started this session, I felt that the rot- 'tail rotor immedia' t'ely
diaEuucJionQ,dy instantly, and that the result at that altitude
and air speed without warning was that.the ship rolled over to
jbp__righ@. It rolled around.and The movement
is and..'rolling. It fishtails to the
right, and it rolls. Buty.....I i-on-T-know if the thing got a
rocket upits stack in the back (phonetic) .... because, theng,and
later on.in the session I started gettin' this feeling of a
smoke trail,up from the rear of it. Like it was... and that word
strella is a something or other-rocket. I don't know what, what
it-is anymore ..... which 'were seeking which i t is, it
would hit in the turbine, in the rearg and like P.m sayin 9 1
don't really see this big mass of explosion like a helicopter
disintegrating, in,. one thing ... more like it @@ @__@o
tba_r_id@t, and begins to fall apart and it lOoses its full of
momentum and it just falls straight down, down, down, down, and
it just misses this canal bank... it just goes right on down through
because on impact it just..you know ... crushes the cockpit and the
cabin, and everything is just nothing but a pancake. Umm .....
#66: Okay. Let's draw the impressions you have then.
#31: it is ... this smoke line that-I keep talking about does come from
behind the helicopter as though, and it comes up from the hill-
side. But it's not the hillside that's tight along the edge of
the canal. It's the hillside that's back from the water line,
the canal or river ...
#66: Okay. Move your arms, move your legs, take a few deep breaths,
and we'll draw the im ou've had.
.pressions y
#31: Okay. Uh, sketch one is like an overview of the area as the crew
chief would've seen looking out of the window. Uh, looking into
the,sunrise there would be this feeling of a linear, like I
thought-a coastline, a large body of water in that direction, uh,
which later on I thought was a lake type of situation. And the
feeling is-that it's moving in a northerly direction to some
remote province. Everything is normal, everything's routine, and
suddenly' the aircraft, uh, fish- seems to fishtail to the right
and snap roll to the right at the same time and the damn thing
just plunges down and on the X, sketch one, it crashes, It almost
makes the bank but it really just misses the bank and plunges into
this waterway right along the edge of the bank and,.you know,
scratches and scrumbles down the bank in the water and under the
water and comes to rest on bottom.
Uhy it is a navigable waterway, a small boat feeling. Small to
medium size boats. Sort of canal like, as though it's a, possibly
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#31: a-river that's been improved or artificially cut. Totally a
canal, or maybe an improved river. Um, they had just flown
*Now- over some hills and mountains. The mountains were farther to
the right and they had flown over them. And like as they had
gone over the mountains and were approaching the waterways when
the accident, or whatever it was, the ... thing occurred and the
aircraft was-out of control, lost forward momentum and began just
falling straight down and ... crashed in the water.
There is heavy vegetation all over the area. Uh ... you know,
essentially, all over. Very, very heavy forested feeling in
this entire- the whole direction of flight was forest. In the
hills@ the light hills near the canal I had a feeling.of fewer
trees, somewhat more grassy coverage maybe. Okay, that's sketch
one,..
Sketch 2 is a view looking ... in the direction of the big water,
large water, whatever it is, lake or... The helicopter has
crashed very near this large water. Now whatever this feeling
of large water is it's very close to there. Uh, as, on the
left side, or the down flight side of the impact point, there
is-a steep canal like bankp which is sort of scrabbly:and gravely,
you know, it's not mucky and mushyt it's gravely like oolite
from Florida. Reminded me very, very much of a Florida canal
that has had the weeds-and the grass:;has been growing in it for
several years so you can still see the hard scrabble. That's
what I call the hard scrabble. It's- you can still see the hard
scrabble along the bank, but it's pretty much getting overgrown.
Like the work in improving the bank might be 4 or 5 years old.
Okay?
Along the edge of it is a road, which I call s- s-, uh, in another
sketch I call s-, hard scrabble road. And the jungle in the
backdrop on.the left side of this sketch. Sketch Z is looking
toward the big water. Around the bend is the big water. Okay?
In sketch 2.
Sketch 3-is on the other side of the crash sight looking back.
And I have.the helicopter at the top of the page at an altitude
of like 8,000 feet.. Uh@ it, something, somewhere in there there's
some sort of overlay. I had the feeling, the:.name Strella came
to mind, which is- and some sort of a smoke contrail. And I
don't know if I was embellishing the.remote viewing or what, as
though it had been out of nowhere, suprised from the rear.by a
sand missile. Like some guerrilla nerds hiding in the mountains
let it fly over and then shot it from behind, right up its,
smoke stack. Okay. And, uh, it caught the crew totally by sur-
prise. They-didn't know what the hell was happening by the time
they were dead, because they were totally disoriented because-
the whole feeling I-had was this plunging, cartwheeling, out-of-
control dive, and just barely missing the edge of the, of the
canal and plunging through the water.
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#31: Uh, sketch 3 is looking away from the big water. And at this
point in time in the session.I pretty well come to the very
strong feeling that what I was dealing with was something like
the Panama Canal and Panama City area.. Some sort of tropical
waterway. Uh, and when I looked in sketch 3 in that direction
I.had the feeling that some good distance down this river or
canal was a city, like Panama City. In other-words, uh ... that
includes- I wouldn't, I don't know if it includes the size of
Panama City so much as it. includes the flavor-of Panama City.
You know, whatever that flavor is, there's, uh, low tropical,
Spanish influence, ramshackle, very disorganized,.very latino
type city down there. Uh, but at the time I was very, very,
you know, feeling very, very strongly about the Panama City
aspect of it.
The wreck is 50 to 60 feet deep.on the ... north side, what would
be the north side of the-waterway. When I was down in.the wreck
and under the water, uh... I had,the feeling like that a smallish
boat.put-putted overhead, you know, like a.power boat, not a
sailboat, but a power boat along the canal. But I was sort.of...
sort of peculiar that although by this time I was thinking of
Panama Canal sort of in the back of my mind, I didn't see any
ocean going-ships on this thing, like the Panama Canal. Rather
I saw like a.speed boat type 40 footer, you knou,.some big power
boat chug-chug over. And then the next thing I saw was when I
off in the jungle on the right side of sketch 3 1 was off in the
jungle, that's sketch 4,.1 saw the masts of some sort,;of middle-
sized.fishing boat go by. Uh, not a big ocean going hundred and,
or 300 foot long vessel, but a 60 or 70 foot long vessel going
by, like a fishing boat or....something, I don't know. And look-
ing back over this hard scrabble road on the bank it was like,
all I could see was the masts go by from the jungle floor. I
couldn't see ... the whole boat go by on the water. All right.
Sketch 4 is the view from the jungle.when I looked back at the
canal, and, uh, with the mountains and.hills in the background.
The south side in the background. Uh ... and this boat going by.
Two things is that ... let me see, 1 talked about this. The pre-
dominant feeling in the sessiont right at.the top I'm riding
along, only the three oV lem in this ship. Didn't feel that,
it was like they were on a training flight. I didn't get a
feeling for cargo. Like a familiarization or orientation flight.
I diffilt get a feeling for cargo or passengers. And that really
for the crew chief it was rLther boring. You know, like, almost
like he was reading a magazine or something while they were
going through the air. Doors were closed, classic.standard
routine.flight pattern, and all of a sudden the place just turned
to shit.. Just out of nowhere. That there was no in-flight emer-
gency that deteriorated, but rather that it was, it-was a deter-
iorated condition right from the beginning. Very sudden loss of
control and plunging, uh, cartwheeling interior. It was like
nobody inside knew what was going on and so they, they were
still trying to figure out.what was happening by the time they
impacted. You know, they just, reflexes were so fast that they
just... UhO I did not get any feeling of in-flight emergency
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#31: that was being handled. Um, very, very sudden. And the move-
ment of the aircraft was, in the line of flight, the tail r-,
,%mope tail of the aircraft fishtails to the right and, and snap rolls
to the right at the same time. It just goes wham! Right into
a cartwheel situation. And very sudden and-out-of nowhere with
no.prior warning....... I don't know. Do you have anything more
you want me to talk about?
#66: No. I have no further questions. Any more comments? ......
#31: Not I think I've pretty much ddne everything. S-, oh, some
pieces fall, oh, the other thing is-here on sketch 3. The
violence of the cartwheeling and plunging is such that like, I
had the feeling some pieces fell off the aircraft as-it was
falling down. Uh, like the main rotor blade might have spun
off and a cowling might've spun off here and there. I did not
get the feeling of an ex- of an in-flight explosion because
when it, I was in the cockpit at the time the emergency-began,
and there was no.fire, flame, anything like that. It was just
this sudden,J was like a, being inside of a kaleidoscope.
Everything just went mmm, just twisted all to hell. Um, so
around the crash.site a, might be.some small pieces of debris.
And there is a gash in the canal bank, as though some piece of
the main rotor or some such hit the canal bank as the whole
thing was plunging through the surface of the water. And if
it's not observed rap-, in the next month or so it will be
overgrown and obscured by the tropical growth.
#66: Okay.
#31: The big water, one last commeht, is this feeling.about the big
water. At first I thought I was on a coast- paralelling the
coastline ... which was okay. When I got down to the crash site
and I was working the crash site during the session, uh, you
like asked me something1ike how.would I locate this place.
Well, the way I was going to go about that is I was going to
follow the canal towards the big water. This feeling of Panama
and Panama City tropicalness meant to me that well, maybe.if I
go. that way along the Canal I'll come to a city and:I111 be able
to say something.
Uh,-I had only proceeded like a half mile or a mile down and
around the first bend and boom! I was in a situation that
resembled a large lake-like my big water had become a large lake
with the, uh ... with2 but an irreg- so irregularly shaped lake
as-to represent the inner montane lake on the Panama Canal.
You know, with the.t with the mountains and hills protruding into
the edges of this body of water so.as'.to make it look like some
sort of an inner montane lake. Uh ... and so that's why.1 called
it what- that's.why I drew it as being at one contiguous body
of water there, you know, is because of this protruding in.
And it was observed from nearly sea- or water.level. You know.
So you know how from a direction of sight, uh ... something like
that could be misleading or mis-
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think of.
#66: Okay.
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REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION DC-97
1. (S/NOFORN), Information provided the.remote viewer prior to the session
is documented as a pre-session briefing and is included in the transcript.
Attached is the photograph shown to the remote viewer.
2. (S/NOFORN) During the session the viewer was asked to elaborate on his
descriptions which seemed relevant to the task at hand.
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