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SESSION REPORT
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SUMMARY ANALYSIS
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC4
1. (S) This report documents a Remote Viewing (RV) session
conducted in compliance with a request from SOD, J3, OJCS,
Pentagon, Washington, D.C. The purpose of the session was
to provide information relevant to the hostage situation in
the U.S. Embassy compound in Teheran, Iran.
2. (S) The remote viewer's impressions of the target are
provided as raw intelligence data and as such have not been
subjected to any intermediate analysis, evaluation or collation.
Interpretation and use of the information provided is the
responsibility of the requestor.
3. (S) The protocol used for this session is detailed in the
document, Grill Flame Protocol, AMSAA Applied Remote Viewing
Protocol'(S), undated.
4. (S) Following is a transcript of the viewer's impressions
during the remote viewing session. At TAB A are drawings made
by the remote viewer reference his impressions of the target
site. At TAB B is target cueing information provided the
remote viewer.
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TRANSCRIPT
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#66
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC4
This will be a remote viewing session (edited
for security).
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Relax and concentrate now. Focus on today's
target. I'm holding in my hands here a picture
of John Graves and a companion marine.
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Relax and concentrate.
on these individuals.
Focus your attention
Focus your attention solely on these individuals
and describe their location to me.
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#27.5
Getting a strong impression of a a brick
room.
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#66:
Its Its a room made of bricks.
Okay.
#27:5: Its a . . . Its a bordered on both sides by a
. . two other rooms of brick, but they're smaller.
I think the marine is in a smaller room. Grqv-s 4 (naletAt.
And . . . Graves is in the larger room. oci t-JAther
Its . . . Both rooms are . . . . have no windows.
There's a . . appears to be . . . some kind of
a low ceiling. Its made of concrete.
#66: Describe the entrance of these rooms.
#27.5: The . . . The main entrance appears to be a
approximately four foot wide door. its made of
plate steel. Its got a double lock. And the
entrance to the smaller room . . has got a
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also got steel door. Looks a lot like
heavy duty fire doors or blast doors.
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There's a very short hallway. outside the
main entrance. . door.
There is a lot of storage in the second smaller
room.
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+05 #66: What is stored there?
#27.5: It. . appears to be box. . some kind of boxes
of paper. . or . . something coiled. Something
rolled. Disc shape objects. Its a . whole
lot of power going into the second room, little
room.
There's
#66: Is one of these individuals located in what you
refer to as the second room?
#27.5: 1 don't understand that question.
#66: This room that you now refer to as the second
room, I .
#27.5: Its a small room. There's two small rooms and
a large one.
#66: Okay.
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#27.5: Its. The . .
#66: That's fine. You can draw it for me later.
Let's not get too bogged down. You can draw
it for me later.
#27.5: Okay.
#66: Describe this room to me.
#27.5: The empty room that's got stored stuff is a
I sense . . . some kind of . . . I want
to say its a radio room but its not. Its got
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#27-5: 1 get the impression of lights. f
Something. . . Something using/power there.
Maybe a switchboard type apparatus or something.
And . . as a separate . . . separate entrance
that's sealed.
Maybe a permanently locked fire door.
Its . . got nobody in it. The main room has
probably thirty people in it. And its very
quiet there. Everybody's very quiet. There's
a second small room.
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that has a what appears to be the
the . . military . . the guards and the
+09 four or five civilian, American civilians.
There's metal file cabinets in that room.
And some desks that have been . . . apparently
shoved to one corner.
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Its in a basement. There is . . .
#66: Elaborate on that. What makes you say this is
a basement?
#27.5: There's no windows . . . And I get a . . . a
cold feeling, like the room's very cold.
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I get a I sense there's dirt on the other
side of the walls. And I also sense the only
way out is up.
#66: Tell me about the entrance to this area.
#27.5: Its a short. . short hallway. . with a.
large steel door. that is
#66: Is the door open or closed?
#27.5: It looks like some kind of a some kind of
. . ' Its closed. It looks like some kind of I
a heavy blast door or something. I saw plated
steel, both sides. Hollow. Its got a dead
bolt latch on the inside. Double key locks.
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There's a smaller rooms./. on the short hallway.
One appears to have furnace type equipment in it.
+12 And one appears to be . . . some kind of bathroom
or something. There's a side stairway that goes
up. And that comes out on a hallway on a second
floor. On a ground floor.
#66: Is this stairway behind this large metal door?
#27.5: No, its outside the door.
#66: All right. All right.
Tell me more about this area; this up above
here. You seemed to go up the stairs. Tell
me more about this.
#27: There's a . . Its only the appears to be
the West end of the building. And its . . .
#66: What makes you say its the West end of the
building?
#27.5: 1 sense it standing at the door to the stairs,
I'm I'm in the West end of the
building I don't know
#66: Okay, go on.
#27.5: Not too far up this hallway is a is a large
set of double doors in the middle of the hallway.
And I sense that . . . normally this would be a
restricted area of the Embassy.
There might be a guard or something on the other
side of the double doors. And then to go through
the double doors would be to enter the main
corrodor. . There's an entry foyer.
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There's double stairways in the entry foyer
that go to the second floor.
#66: Go to the floor you're on now, or go to another
floor?
#27.5: Go to another floor.
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#66: All right.
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#27.5: 1 1 see like a few lengths of the
. . next floor you could not get into the end
of the building I was just in. In order to
+15 enter the West end of the building, you have to
go left into the guard and the double doors.
There's a separate stair. . staircase there.
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I'm seeing two floors and three floors and I'm
having trouble making up my mind if its two
floors and a basement or three floors and a
basement. I think its two floors and a basement.
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Like there's a communications room on the
second floor West end also.
#66: Okay.
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I want you to return now, return now to the
room with many people in it.
#27.5: Okay.
#66: The room with many people in it.
#27.5: Its a big room.
#66: And describe . . All right. Fine. I want
you to tell me more about that room. What's
in the room?
+17 #27.5: There's . . . I see a lot of metal file cabinets.
And I see . . . see some desks. It looks a lot
like there were . . partitions or something that
were moved. I see curtains on one wall - appears
. . . that . .
#66: Okay, focus your attention on those curtains.
#27.5: Okay.
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#66: Now I don't want to confuse you, but you
had told me before that this was a basement
area.
#27.5: Yes.
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There's maps behind the curtains.
#66: All right.
#27.5: Some large maps.
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	I think the curtains are decorative.
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	They are curtains though or something . . .
	something on the wall that looks like curtains.
	Its a covering or a hanging or
#66:	All right, fine.
#27.5:	Some kind of curtain type thing anyway.
	Its definitely something hanging there.
#66:	Tell me about how the room is illuminated?
	The type of lights that are there.
+19 #27.5:	There's flourescent lights. I see . . . four
	rows of flourescent lights. There's four
	flourescent tubes to a light and only about
	half of them are lit.
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And . . .
#66:	The floor?		
#27.5:	The floor is	carpet.	
			
#66:	Color?		
			
#27.5:	1 sense that	its earth color.	brown and green
	mix.		
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#27.5: Earthy color. Brown/green.
#66: Fine.
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#27.5: There's heaters in the room
against the wall.
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Some kind of space heaters. -(d6e
#66: Okay, now, once again, once again, how do you
get into this room? Describe the entrance to
this room.
#27.5: You go through a go through a steel door.
#66: And where is the door located?
#27.5: Its located in . . . in the end of the room.
The room's narrow and wide. Its long but its
not . . not overly wide. And on the long end
+21 there's an opening. That's where the steel
door is.
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And there's a small hallway on the other
side.
#66: All right. This concludes the questions that
I have at this time.
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Is there anything that you would like to add?
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#27.5: 1 sense that . . . very quiet in the building.
And that . . . . there's . . . some kind of a
. . switchboard or something. Kind of a telephone
that's important.
#66: Where is this important telephone?
#27.5: Its sitting on a desk in the big room.
#66: All right.
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#27.5: And that for some reason its important.
Its important to the . . . to the
the guards, the people there with the guns.
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#66: Okay, anything else that you'd like to add
at this point?
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#27.5: No, there's nothing significant happening
right now. I sense there's . . . there's
controlled. . . There's absolute control in
in the compound, but that that's not necessarily
the case elsewhere.
#66: Okay, I'd like you now to draw those things
that you've described to me.
#27.5: Okay.
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#27.5: There's a steel door here and there's a second
door here. And this is a small room.
PAUSE
And there's . . . some kind of equipment
or something over here and there's boxes over
here. This is empty.
PAUSE
And then . . . in here there's another small
room. And there's 12 or 15 people in here.
This is where the marine guards are. And,
for some reason, there appears to be four or
five civilians with the marine guards in here.
And there's thirty or so people in here. And
there's some kind of curtain type thing here.
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Hanging on the wall. . that type. . it-looks
like curtains. Its white. . or tan and its
hanging on the wall. Appears to be some kind
of maps or designs behind it.
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#27.5: And over here there's like a room with a
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furnace or something and next to it there's
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another room. Looks like a bathroom. And
there's a stairs right here. This little
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hallway.
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#66: Where is this important telephone located?
#27.5: Somewhere in this area.
Some desks here. I don't. . I don't know what
to call it. It looks like a . . it looks like
either some kind of a telephone or switchboard
type phone, you know, but its . . . its odd
to the room. You know, its temporary to the
room. Its not supposed to be there. Its there
now.
#66: Okay. Well, draw a little arrow and some
labels so we can see from the drawing.
#27.5: Okay.
PAUSE
Might be some kind of a field radio with a
telephone hand set.
#66: Okay.
#27.5: And this. . aside there's also a door in this
small room here but its sealed or barred.
PAUSE
#66: Okay, where is. . the file cabinets and things
like that?
#27.5: Well, there's file cabinets in all these rooms.
You know, they're just spaced throughout the
rooms. These squares signify file cabinets.
And there's like desks shoved back in the corner
of the room. In both rooms. And there apparently
is some kind of a jumble of partitions or
something that were pushed out of the way.
That's the heavy black lines. Like the room
has been rearranged and all these walls are brick.
And no windows. And I sense that this is a
below ground level room, like a basement.room.
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#27.5: There's something peculiar about this area.
I don't know what it is.
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I I can't put my finger on it. Something
There's something significantly important
about this specific area of the Embassy. I
I . .
#66: What is it that gives you that feeling?
What is the raw data that gives you that
feeling?
#27.5: 1 feel apparations of some sort going on in
this place. Like a nerve center so to speak.
And I . . I don't . . That's a very rough
guesstimate as to what the feeling is. I just
feel like there's something significant about
this area.of the Embassy.
I kept trying to make this steel door a vault
door but its not. Its just a heavy blast type
door.
#66: Okay, now I want to I want to kind of add
a little something to what you've said. You
have stated now that this in fact in the Embassy
itself?
#27.5: Yes.
#66: Okay. That you feel that this room that you
described is a component part of the Embassy?
#27.5: Um hm. On the West end.
#66: All right.
#27.5: Of the Embassy.
#66: Not just the West end of any building. You
have a strong feeling . . .
#27.5: 1 think its in the Embassy building. You know,
my terminology for Embassy building is probably
anything in the compound and that's my problem.
There's a main building that you would go to in
the Embassy compound to apply for visas, to talk
to, you know, some representative of our Govern-
ment or whatever. . If that's what your terminology
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my terminology is for the Embassy building.
#66: Okay, and you feel this building is a mul i_,J4
story building of some kind.
#27.5: Yes. Two stories, a basement. Or three
stories, the bottom story having no windows.
I think its two stories and a basement. And
its the . . . its the main building at the end
of the turn-around main entrance turn-around
with parking in front of it. I think its about
two-thirds of the way back in the compound.
PAUSE
There's two other buildings in the compound.
That I sense.
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#66: What's the general shapeof the building that
contains this?
#27.5: Well, I keep wanting to make it in the shape of
an "I". But its more of a. . not so pronounced
eye, its a very . . . I get this feeling.
#66: The ends are just slightly wider than the middle.
#27.5: Yeah. And . . this would be the West end.
This would be the East end.
And there's like a . . . a drive entrance, like
this. And that there's parking or something
here and here.
#66: Okay, tell me about when this imagery appeared
to you. Is this secondary or?
#27.5: No, just now when I'm sketching this, I'm
getting this for some reason. I feel like
there's another building over here. Another
building over here. And that this is all in
the compound and the compound . . . this is like
two-thirds of the way back into the compound.
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As I'm sitting here drawing, I'm getting these
feelings.
#66: Okay, put a number 2 on there.
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#27.5: Oh, number 2.
#66: Okay, I think we've got some good stuff here.
Is there anything you feel like you want to
add to what you've said here?
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#27.5: 1 get the feeling like there's maybe . . . for
some reason there's a lack of power or something
to a couple of rooms. I get the feeling like
there's emergency lights on for some reason.
I don't know what gives me that feeling and I
don't know how to qualify it. I see these
just these head lamp type lights lit in the
building and I don't understand what that is.
I'get a strong impression of emergency lighting
for some reason.
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But only in parts of the buildings though.
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#66: Okay, anything else?
#27.5: Nope.
#66: Okay, That'll do it then.
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TARGET CUING INFORMATION
REMOTE VIEWING (RV) SESSION CC4
1. (S) The remote viewer had been exposed to open source
news media information prior to this session. He knew he
would be working against the hostage situation in Iran. He
had not seen any overhead imagery prior to the session.
2. (S) The following page shows the only information provided
to him at the time of the session. After the session he was
shown an overhead photograph of the Embassy compound and he
indicated, after some discussion, that he thought the area he
had described was in a building identified as a warehouse.
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