he's aspiring to a blessed life the life of blessedness right the best possible life for a human being um it's it's it's philosophy in the sense of pierre haddow and uh and he's personally courageous and heroic the way socrates was yes uh even his enemies had to admit that he was a virtuous uh virtuous virtuous individual so they're that's so whereas i find people like madness distasteful i don't like to pay attention to liveness as a person independent from yeah right because the fact that he used under the bus is one of his favorite sins uh to my mind uh that's that's all aside okay but spinoza for me so he's he's a good choice but he's also an exemplary figure precisely because he recapitulates within the heart of the scientific revolution he's a he's a you know he's i think it's better to call him a disciple of descartes he of course is a significant innovator but he is cartesian through and through in in many ways in the heart of the scientific revolution he is right he's basically taking up the ancient project of the good life and he's trying to put it back into what i think you could i think reasonable given his own ontology you could call a naturalistic framework um um and so he to me stands as and i'm glad he's going through a revival right now because he stands for me and each one of these is contentious you know this anything you say about spinoza's like anything you say about jesus of nazareth or socrates you're going to get 10 people disagreeing with you right but for me he stands as the epitome of somebody who within a naturalistic framework is still nevertheless proposing something deeply continuous with the entire socratic neoplatonic tradition and there's even a mystical component as you've argued and i agree with that argument and he's doing that within the scientific revolution within the naturalistic framework i think he's also proposing um uh i would argue a kind of non-theism as an alternative uh because he was seeking to get beyond um you know as many people were at the time uh you know th