if you remember i i i gave sort of the cognitive continuum um thesis um daniel greg and i have done work on that other people well other people have converged on that hypothesis too but the basic argument and you know there's empirical evidence that the the mystical experience part of the higher states of consciousness is something like uh well a profound insight it's an insight not just about this but an insight at a very basic level of your processing we talked about this sort of meta optimal gripping uh and so you're getting into the flow state and remember i made a distinction between hot and cool flow you're you can be in both but like you can be in the cool flow state about sort of met up your your your your primordial skill of meta optimally gripping getting getting an optimal grip on your capacity to take more specific optimal grips in the world and then if if you do that systemically and systematically that can be that can be very much like what a child goes through when they're going through a developmental stage and i made that argument last time so what we've got is that um mystical experiences are doing this this enhancement of our insight capacity now an argument i didn't quite make but it's also part of the flow work that i did with leo ferraro and erin bennett which is the flow experience also is the enhancement of implicit learning and i want to do a little bit more about that argument more explicitly right now that's okay yes so the idea is that there's again a lot of plausible evidence that we are capable of implicit learning which is we can pick up on patterns complex patterns that we couldn't we can't hold in working memory we can nevertheless pick up on them and track them and again this is a lot of empiric experimental evidence for this over decades well replicated um and and and you know it's even starting to pervade the general sort of public awareness that we're we're we're doing a lot of this implicit pattern detection so hogarth wrote a really important book called educating intuition