ements occur justifies cultivating yeah 's 'd say people come experiences derive kinds crazy propositional beliefs claims um fact say diametrically opposite things people come like said favorite example reading taylor know one person goes comes reports know 's god 're relieved another person comes said know 's god 're relieved 're happy get mystical experience without psychedelics 're likely find personal god whereas inside psychedelic um thing 're likely find personal thing like universe one right right 's big contrasts know god n't entity personal 's impersonal metaphysics go like right tend say justification higher states consciousness terms plausibility improvement wisdom transfer justification metaphysical claims made 's happening critic 're giving voice well people come say kinds crazy crap 's like yeah n't try put justification higher states propositional theory try put know sapiential improvement skills states consciousness mind identity yeah want clear want clear two things one one slight disagreements know think 's think 's good space difference us yes respect humility welcoming difference 's think tremendous um get want want circle back clarify previous point fair