touched upon bit uh maybe come back today know uh anti-normativity seems beyond good evil 's epistemic truth um somehow grounds kinds knowing uh want talk uh maybe 's actually related question want ask um uh take spirit kindness uh 's 's offered uh 's 's trying draw uh argument um know made implicitly 'm gon na make um explicitly 'm planning third series socrates god beyond god going title um many people fact could make argument even exegetically 'll make sort theoretically many people argued core mysticism experience non-duality um n't like word experience 'm going use word try make prevalent meaning crisis realization non-duality 's yeah think 's better way putting much better yeah okay 's realization non-duality um would argue n't think 'd alone argument n't think 'd represent consensus either n't think 'm like voice crying wilderness anything like think um many people see 's deep connection uh uh non-dualism non-theism position transcends usual dichotomy uh atheism theism seem bound set propositions presuppositions perhaps stronger think transcended think least retrospectively critical shared presuppositions core spirituality belief belief puts us relationship supreme super thing um uh uh primarily looking know evidence decide undecidable debate theism atheism know