important discussion yeah 's 's 's stupid 's 's level interaction discussion people want hear uh want hear category want throw atheist boss theist box ds book yeah 's 's 's something stupid think someone like 'd rather give titles 're coming chat challenged 're coming learn 're coming box people 's enough boxing world think open labels open terms see might refer references might imply reality see think real question say say nature divine nate characterize think 're really asking nature reality yeah see reality yeah yeah 's 's important question metaphysical ontological um convictions reality defines way go ahead live lives make decisions category non-theism really really fantastic one think um may actually heard use first way use think 's 's spot-on precise um n't heard used much else real shame fact mystics um either non-duality unity point something non-theistic blatantly clear mean mean fact open perhaps people less familiar history literature mysticism mysticism um west 's tradition known prophetic theology literally non-saying opposite character try make positive statements w